Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
🌚 4.06. The Turtles and the Stars: An Interview with AX Mina ✨🐢✨🐢
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🌚 4.06. The Turtles and the Stars: An Interview with AX Mina ✨🐢✨🐢

One of Many Studio's Britt and Nour interview Five and Nine host and co-founder AX Mina (Ana) about jackets, stars, turtles and, of course, magic.
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Five and Nine co-founder and host AX Mina wanders through the Wadi Rum desert. Photo by Nour Batyne.

This is Five and Nine, a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. Welcome to Season 4, Episode 6, recorded online after our time together in Wadi Rum.

Season 4 is co-presented with One of Many Studio (OoM), an experience design & consulting studio connecting people with what it means to be a Future Ancestor. 

You can find Five and Nine on Apple, Spotify, Google, Instagram and at thisisfiveandnine.com.

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The Star card from the Rider Waite Smith deck. Image via Wikipedia.

Summary

In this minisode, One of Many Studio’s Britt Pham and Nour Batyne interview a familiar voice — AX Mina (Ana), your host for Season 4 and a co-founder at Five and Nine. They discuss the meaning of stars, the many jackets we wear in our professional lives, definitions of magic, and the Buddhist concept of precious birth. As night descends on the desert, we look back on the Jupiter-Saturn Conjunction of 2020 and what we learned in the quiet of lockdown. Also: Aja Monet’s newest album.

Five and Nine Season 4 is about crisis. It’s our first season recorded on location, with the majority of our episodes produced in the beautiful Wadi Rum desert in Jordan, thanks to a special artist residency hosted by One of Many Studio (OoM).

Music performed by Hashim Bin Muaitiq. The music was recorded live in Wadi Rum.

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About One of Many Studio

Season 4 is co-presented with One of Many Studio, an experience design & consulting studio connecting people with what it means to be a Future Ancestor. One of Many works at the intersection of immersive experiences and social change, elevating critical conversations to transform the way we relate to ourselves, each other, and our legacies.


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Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. We publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.

Five and Nine is produced by Five and Nine Futures Lab, a research, design and strategy consultancy that helps organizations and companies build better futures through the lens of work, care and magic.

In this new world, we’re all rethinking the meaning of work and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability. 

Directors of Magic. Dorothy R. Santos and Xiaowei R. Wang
Creative Director. Xiaowei R. Wang
Lead Producer. AX Mina (Ana)

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Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the intersection of magic, work and economic justice, produced by Dorothy R. Santos, Xiaowei R. Wang and AX Mina.
Each season, we publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.
In these upside down times, it’s time for a new perspective on the classic “9 to 5” (and yes, we’re Dolly Parton fans). In tarot and astrology, reversals and retrogrades matter, because they shed light on our situation in new ways. Five represents turning points and change, and Nine represents a coming to completion.
We’re all rethinking the meaning of labor and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability.
This podcast is always free, and we're supported by paid members. Learn more at thisisfiveandnine.com.
Remember that tarot, magic and the other practices we discuss are not a substitute for psychiatric or mental health care services. We present this content as-is, for entertainment and educational purposes only.