This is Five and Nine, a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. Welcome to Season 4, Episode 9, recorded online and on location in the Wadi Rum Desert in Jordan.
Season 4 is co-presented with One of Many Studio (OoM), an experience design & consulting studio connecting people with what it means to be a Future Ancestor.
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Summary
“I was always the busy one,” says our guest Hana of her life before COVID lockdowns. In this final interview of Season 4, we talk about the power of being by oneself, how it feels to jump back into a familiar line of work, and the importance of intuition. We look at present-day Petra, the famous city of stone nestled in southern Jordan, and we close with a tarot reading that captures the essence of acceptance in the face of change. Also: remembering to look up.
Five and Nine Season 4 is about crisis. It’s our first season recorded on location, with the majority of our episodes produced in the beautiful Wadi Rum desert in Jordan, thanks to a special artist residency hosted by One of Many Studio (OoM).
Music performed by Hashim Bin Muaitiq, recorded live in Wadi Rum.
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About One of Many Studio
Season 4 is co-presented with One of Many Studio, an experience design studio at the intersection of healing and justice work. We envision a movement of Future Ancestors built through transformative, intentionally curated experiences.
New Workshops from Season 4 Hosts
(Online Feb 6 and 20) AX Mina: A Workshop on Rigorous Nonfiction from the Heart
This workshop is led by AX Mina, an author and coach who’s worked with hundreds of clients through coaching programs, 1:1 coaching and workshops. In a time of increasing uncertainty and chaos, compassionate, thoughtful, engaging nonfiction writing is needed more than ever.
In this class, we will look at nonfiction writing that sits at the intersection of facts and feelings — grabbing our attention with the heart while steeped in rigor, research and realism. We’ll look at how authors weave in and out between deeply heartfelt stories and careful facts. Importantly, we’ll also look at how nonfiction writing can elucidate and guide readers toward visions of the future that shape a sense of possibility, wonder and even optimism, all while grounded in research.
While tailored for nonfiction writers, this workshop can work well for writers of any kind.
(Interested in a deeper dive on your creative practice? Also consider one-on-one coaching with AX Mina.)
(New York City Feb 17) One of Many Studio: Gathering Future Ancestors
Join OoM for Gathering Future Ancestors: a meditative experience of immersive storytelling, participatory art, and sound — exploring water as an entryway to our shared humanity. Featuring artists across NYC and from the OoM Residency Experiences 2022-2023.
Live podcast recording by AX Mina of the Five and Nine Podcast
Calligraphy performance & installation by Adelle Lin
Origami crane-making and participatory altar installation with Sarah Aoanan
Visual art by Sun Katayama
Music by AERI
The PREMIER of The OoM Residency 2023 Film
More to be announced soon…
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Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. We publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.
Five and Nine is produced by Five and Nine Futures Lab, a research, design and strategy consultancy that helps organizations and companies build better futures through the lens of work, care and magic.
In this new world, we’re all rethinking the meaning of work and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability.
Directors of Magic. Dorothy R. Santos and Xiaowei R. Wang
Creative Director. Xiaowei R. Wang
Lead Producer. AX Mina (Ana)
