Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
🌚 3.06. A Diary of Being Laid Off, with M Eifler (Season Finale)
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🌚 3.06. A Diary of Being Laid Off, with M Eifler (Season Finale)

A month ago, artist and creative technologist M Eifler was laid off. We talk about visualizing stress, the role of ritual, and how to make art from bed. We close the season with a live tarot reading.
A selection of cards from M Eifler’s Mixed Signals tarot deck.

This is Five and Nine, a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. Welcome to Season 3, Episode 6, our season finale. We’ll be back in a couple months.

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Summary

A month ago, artist and creative technologist M Eifler was laid off from their job, one of nearly 200,000 layoffs this year alone. M discusses the uncertainty and anxiety they’ve experienced since the layoff and shares how they have been using art and LinkedIn to document their journey. From ritual to song to visualizing the experience of stress, they share wisdom on navigating the ups and downsβ€”while also finding a new path forward.

M is the creator of Art School From Bed, an online series that explores how technology can be used to solve problems around disability. They discuss their work in disability and access, including their role as a lay leader in a Jewish community in San Francisco. The episode ends with a tarot reading using their very own deck, the Mixed Signals Deck, and we close with an offering from M on the theme of rest, which feels particularly relevant given the new moon, solar eclipse, and Mercury Retrograde cycle happening at the time of recording.

Season 3 is all about rest. In a time of extended crisis, permacrisis and polycrisis, taking time to decompress is not just a benefit but a necessity. Learning to slow down, reflect and make space for expansive thinking is part of what makes rest so sweet but also so elusive. Grab a blanket, turn down the lights, and turn up Five and Nine this season to hear new perspectives on the age old practice of reflection, rejuvenation and recovery.

As an experiment, we generated this summary using ChatGPT and then edited it heavily.

The cards from M’s live tarot reading on the episode: The High Priestess, Three of Wands and Maker of Stones (aka Queen of Pentacles)

Resources

About Our Guest

Tarot Cards Discussed

Resources

Music

An image of Ana, Dorothy and M Eifler in Riverside.fm, our virtual recording studio. M appears sideways for fun!
M Eifler visits the Five and Nine virtual studio.

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Votive Hanging with Image of Kannon. Image via the Cleveland Museum of Art.

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Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. We publish β€œmoonthly” β€” every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 β€” , and we provide an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.

In this new world, we’re all rethinking the meaning of work and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability.Β 

Directors of Magic. Dorothy R. Santos and Xiaowei R. Wang
Creative Director. Xiaowei R. Wang
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Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the intersection of magic, work and economic justice, produced by Dorothy R. Santos, Xiaowei R. Wang and AX Mina.
Each season, we publish β€œmoonthly” β€” every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 β€” , and we provide an an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.
In these upside down times, it’s time for a new perspective on the classic β€œ9 to 5” (and yes, we’re Dolly Parton fans). In tarot and astrology, reversals and retrogrades matter, because they shed light on our situation in new ways. Five represents turning points and change, and Nine represents a coming to completion.
We’re all rethinking the meaning of labor and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability.
This podcast is always free, and we're supported by paid members. Learn more at thisisfiveandnine.com.
Remember that tarot, magic and the other practices we discuss are not a substitute for psychiatric or mental health care services. We present this content as-is, for entertainment and educational purposes only.