Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
🌝 2.05. Life After a Great Resignation, with Ruben Briseño Reveles
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🌝 2.05. Life After a Great Resignation, with Ruben Briseño Reveles

"It was either me or the job." After 20 years at a restaurant, Chicanx futurist artist Ruben Briseño Reveles leapt forth into a new path. This episode contains a live tarot reading.

This is Five and Nine, a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. Welcome to Season 2, Episode 5, the second to last episode of the season.

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A fractal-like image of bright reds and oranges exploding outward
Inner Spaces, by Ruben Briseño Reveles

Summary

Over a year ago, Chicanx futurist artist Ruben Briseño Reveles grappled with a choice: either his job or his mental health and well-being. He decided to make a leap into a new life when he left his restaurant job of 20 years. His is one of many stories of great resignations in the face of the events of 2020 and 2021, and we talk with Ruben about what he’s learned during this time — about his art, his spirituality, and his relationship to his family.

In this episode, we conduct a live tarot reading with Ruben during the portal of Dia de los Muertos, or Day of the Dead, which occurs this year between the solar and lunar eclipses of the latter half of 2022. The reading touches on the practicalities of making a living as an artist and the role that prayer and ancestry have in keeping us steady in periods of change.

Five and Nine Season 2 is about transitions. As falls sets in in the northern hemisphere and spring in the south, Five and Nine looks at change in all its forms — leaving jobs, changing industries, starting new paths, and the wisdom that tarot and magic have to offer in a world that seems to be ever in flux.

A screenshot (from left to right) of co-hosts, Ana and Dorothy, and guest Ruben in rectangular boxes within our digital podcasting studio, Riverside, smiling for the camera. Some of Ruben’s art is visible behind him.

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Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. We publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.

In this new world, we’re all rethinking the meaning of work and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability. 

Directors of Magic. Dorothy R. Santos and Xiaowei R. Wang
Creative Director. Xiaowei R. Wang
Lead Producer. Ana Mina (aka An Xiao)

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Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the intersection of magic, work and economic justice, produced by Dorothy R. Santos, Xiaowei R. Wang and AX Mina.
Each season, we publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.
In these upside down times, it’s time for a new perspective on the classic “9 to 5” (and yes, we’re Dolly Parton fans). In tarot and astrology, reversals and retrogrades matter, because they shed light on our situation in new ways. Five represents turning points and change, and Nine represents a coming to completion.
We’re all rethinking the meaning of labor and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability.
This podcast is always free, and we're supported by paid members. Learn more at thisisfiveandnine.com.
Remember that tarot, magic and the other practices we discuss are not a substitute for psychiatric or mental health care services. We present this content as-is, for entertainment and educational purposes only.