Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
🌚 2.02. Magic in the Everyday, with Helen Shewolfe Tseng
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🌚 2.02. Magic in the Everyday, with Helen Shewolfe Tseng

Five and Nine talks with artist, designer, and witch Helen Shewolfe Tseng on spells for healing, what we learned in nature during lockdown, and the rituals of everyday magic.

This is Five and Nine, a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. Welcome to Season 2, Episode 2.

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Summary

How can everyday magic helps us navigate change? Five and Nine talks with artist, designer, and witch Helen Shewolfe Tseng. They share their work on growth spells, drawings made over an extended period of time for personal healing and transformation, and their Coyote Portals series, inspired by the fission-fusion adaptations and mythos of these often misunderstood animals. We also talk about what we learned in nature during lockdown and how to find grounding in uncertain times, from petting our plants to working with free ballpoint pens.

Season 2 is about transitions. As falls sets in in the northern hemisphere and spring int he south, Five and Nine looks at change in all its forms — leaving jobs, changing industries, starting new paths, and the wisdom that tarot and magic have to offer in a world that seems to be ever in flux.

A drawing of a coyote with its paw on a black kite-shaped portal to outer space
An image from Helen Shewolfe Tseng’s Coyote Portals series

Resources

From Our Guest

Music

  • Episode: Bow Wow Blues, performed by the Original Dixieland Jazz Band, 1921.

  • Outro: Ain’t we got fun, composed by Richard A. Whiting and performed by the Benson Orchestra of Chicago, 1921.

A picture of Helen speaking in front of their growth spells, pinned on a wall.
Tseng presenting their work Growth Spells.
Written instructions for collaborative growth spells. Please see http://helentseng.com/#/growth-spells/ for more context/content
Growth Spells instructions from Helen Shewolfe Tseng

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Each paid subscription helps support our production costs and honoraria for our speakers. With enough support, we’ll also be able to bring back written transcripts for the show, provide stipends for our producers and hosts, and more.

Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. We publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.

In this new world, we’re all rethinking the meaning of work and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability. 

Directors of Magic. Dorothy R. Santos and Xiaowei R. Wang
Creative Director. Xiaowei R. Wang
Lead Producer. Ana Mina (aka An Xiao)

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Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine: Tarot, Work and Economic Justice
Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the intersection of magic, work and economic justice, produced by Dorothy R. Santos, Xiaowei R. Wang and AX Mina.
Each season, we publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.
In these upside down times, it’s time for a new perspective on the classic “9 to 5” (and yes, we’re Dolly Parton fans). In tarot and astrology, reversals and retrogrades matter, because they shed light on our situation in new ways. Five represents turning points and change, and Nine represents a coming to completion.
We’re all rethinking the meaning of labor and justice in our lives. Our lives and livelihoods are more essential than ever in identifying ways forward for society that can be grounded in care, compassion and sustainability.
This podcast is always free, and we're supported by paid members. Learn more at thisisfiveandnine.com.
Remember that tarot, magic and the other practices we discuss are not a substitute for psychiatric or mental health care services. We present this content as-is, for entertainment and educational purposes only.